Re: FSF debuts fully-free Ubuntu/Debian variant
Originally posted by
Anthem
As I said in the other thread, I find the whole issue bizarre.
They didn't take out proprietary drivers from the GPL kernel, because the GPL kernel doesn't ship with them. What they did is take out all of the "shims" that allow proprietary software to be bolted on. The made it so the "kernel-restricted" packages won't line up with the "kernel" packages.
The other thing they did was make it impossible to access the Multiverse or Restricted repositories.
The only thing they added are some GNU utilities to the stock Ubuntu install... these utilities are available but not included in other distros because they're not considered "best of breed."
I don't see how this enhances freedom. It's easy enough to download an all-free distro... what they did was cripple their user's ability to use anything that's not FSF-approved Free Software.
Explain to me again how that embodies freedom.
It's simple. It became necessary to destroy the freedoms in order to save them.
Or no, wait. In order to make an OS you must first break a few kernel modules. That's it
Originaly posted by
deanlinkus
Not embodies freedom in the general sense but embodies FSF defined freedoms.
If we are going to "shim" everything into linux I will just stick to XP myself. I would rather have it built in than bolted on.
You are welcome to your idea of a free distro, can I not be welcome to mine.
You're entitled to your opinion, and the FSF is allowed to do whatever they want with Ubuntu. No one here has argued otherwise. However, we're all free to debate the merits of their action. I think that's sort of the whole point of this cafe thing.
- Captain John Yossarian
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