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    XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    I did this HOWTO for Hoary originally. People seemed to like it. Since that time, Breezy has been releasesd, a couple of minor proceduress have changed and I've learned some things so I figured I'd re-write it.

    I've seen posts about getting down to XFCE4 after install but what I wanted was just XFCE4 from the start. Nothing else. I found a site in French that had the info I needed so I thought I'd redo it for you all here.

    This is for an x86 install. If you are installing on a PPC system, this may not work for you. Actually, it may not work on an x86 system either. It all depends on your hardware.

    Boot with the CD inserted. At the initial prompt, type "server" and press enter. This will get you your bare (or bare-ish) install. Once the install is complete and you are logged in, change your sources.list to include the universe and multiverse repos. To do that, do

    Code:
    sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list_backup
    then

    Code:
    sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
    Replace everything in the file with the following lines

    ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted

    ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
    ## after the final release of the distribution.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted

    ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
    ## repository.
    ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
    ## team, and may not be under a free license. Please satisfy yourself as to
    ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
    ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
    ## team.
    deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
    deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
    deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse
    deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy multiverse

    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted

    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
    deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security multiverse
    deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security multiverse

    Do a "Ctrl-X" and press “Y” to save the edited file

    Do

    Code:
    sudo apt-get update
    then

    Code:
    sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
    Once that is done, do

    Code:
    sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop gdm
    Now reboot. When you see the Ubuntu login screen, login.

    Once you are in, one thing you should do right off the bat is get ivman working. This will allow your USB drives and other hotplug items to automount.

    Open the XFCE menu, by clicking the button on the far left of the iconbar. Click 'Run Program...' and type 'ivman &'. Then click the "Run" button. Now, open the XFCE menu again and choose "Quit". Make sure that the radio button next to "Quit current session" and the checkbox next to "Save session for future logins are both checked. Click the "OK" button.

    Once you are logged out, you can log back in.

    (NOTE: It would appear that ivman is dying every so often at random. If you plug in a USB drive and it does not automount, just run "ivman" from the "Run Program" menu item like you did initially. Once I get this fixed, I'll update these instructions.)

    If you find that your computer hangs on shut downs or reboots, you MAY be able to resolve this issue editing grub’s menu.lst. In the terminal, do:

    Code:
    sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst
    Find the section that starts with ## ## Start Default Options ##. In that section you will see a line that starts with # kopt=root=". Do not uncomment that line. Just add "nolapic" to the end of that line. Save the file by doing “Ctrl-X” and press “Y” to save the changes and do

    Code:
    sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-version
    (NOTE: Replace version with the actual version number of your kernel.)

    Reboot or shut down and you MAY find that your problem is gone.

    (NOTE: I am discovering that this also solves a problem I was having with usplash not working. I don't know why this would fix it and I can't guarantee that it would fix it for you.)

    What you now have is a somewhat bare Ubuntu install with only XFCE4 as your desktop with a couple of goodies added just to make you experience easier. You can find other items you might want by searching through Synaptic.

    Enjoy!
    Last edited by SFN; October 17th, 2005 at 07:22 PM. Reason: Added note regarding failure of ivman
    In his later years, Oofty Goofty used to like to sit on the front porch of the General Store and
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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    I suggest a few more changes. Instead of apt-getting XFCE4, advise people to install the

    xubuntu-desktop


    pacakge instead.
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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    Yeah, I just found out about that after this afternoon after I wrote that.

    To be honest, I'm kind of wondering if this is even relevant with Xubuntu being a planned project now.

    Thoughts, anyone?
    In his later years, Oofty Goofty used to like to sit on the front porch of the General Store and
    reminisce about the time he let the late, great John L. Sullivan hit him with a billiard cue.

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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    I want xubuntu! Enough said!
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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    Quote Originally Posted by SFN
    Yeah, I just found out about that after this afternoon after I wrote that.

    To be honest, I'm kind of wondering if this is even relevant with Xubuntu being a planned project now.

    Thoughts, anyone?

    Until the ISOs are made this is needed.
    Those folks who try to impose analog rules on digital content will find themselves on the wrong side of the tidal wave.
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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    Here's a question. I haven't tried the xubuntu-desktop method as I'm in the middle of something else. What is the display manager used? The package doesn't show one so if we install this way, do we just get the console login prompt?
    In his later years, Oofty Goofty used to like to sit on the front porch of the General Store and
    reminisce about the time he let the late, great John L. Sullivan hit him with a billiard cue.

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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    no display manager. xdm is a little broken according to the xubuntu mailing list.

    Also, there are likely to be a few rough edges on xubuntu, it seems they didn't get as much done as they ideally wanted to before universe was frozen. Automounting is an example of that. It didn't make it.

    Don't let that stop anyone from trying it though. If you want to see an xfce4 based desktop, the best thing to do is try it out, give feedback if things aren't quite working and generally get the momentum up on the whole thing.

    I'd love to see it really smooth for Dapper.

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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    Well, I'm trying the method shown above right now. Right off the bat it looks like a ton of fonts are being installed. Most of them, I'll never use. I guess that's part of making a nicely rounded distro for everyone, which is cool.
    In his later years, Oofty Goofty used to like to sit on the front porch of the General Store and
    reminisce about the time he let the late, great John L. Sullivan hit him with a billiard cue.

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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    Automounting is now working. Instructions updated.
    In his later years, Oofty Goofty used to like to sit on the front porch of the General Store and
    reminisce about the time he let the late, great John L. Sullivan hit him with a billiard cue.

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    Re: XFCE without running Gnome in Breezy

    hi sfn

    thx for your tutorial!
    so far i have installed the default ubuntu 5.10 base system and changed to xfce
    now i don't really want to use gnome anymore, is there a way to safely remove gnome or at least some parts? i think there might be dependency problems, but
    do you have any suggestions?

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